As a former staff writer for the Daily Breeze and the San Diego Union-Tribune newspapers -- and a contributor to the best-selling Chicken Soup for the Soul books, Diana Chapman has covered the issues peoplefind important. In this blog, she focuses on the community programs and resources that benefit children and teens. Also visit her blog: http://www.secretlifeinmybackyard.blogspot.com. You can email her at hartchap@cox.net @
Tuesday, March 23, 2010
SOME KIDS STORIES GIVE US A WHOLE NEW VOICE WITH THEIR WRITING; TRY THIS ONE ON FOR SIZE
Dear Readers: In this exercise, students were given stickers to write about and in Keli Mezin’s case, she picked a butterfly sticker. It’s interesting what unfolds when kids are allowed the shot at creativity. Diana
MY BUTTERFLY
By Keli Mezin,
My butterfly is orange, black and white.It is a girl.She loves to fly everywhere, everyday.She lives in a big pine tree on a cliff.She smells the ocean and some days, she flies down to the ocean to meet other butterflies.
Her name is Leila.She is a very graceful butterfly, indeed.And so is her name.Every male butterfly she sees wants her.But she never takes.She is happy how she is living in a tree on a cliff where she happily practices her daily flying routines.
Even though Leila was sweetly beautiful, she had a nastier side.
She was snippy and if someone started a fight, Leila liked to make it worse.
But one day, she met a lonely deer picking at the tree that Leila lived in.“I’m trying to get some sleep,” Leila snapped.“Sorry," the deer grunted, but he didn’t stop.
“Why do you keep hitting and picking at my trees?,” Leila moaned.
“Why don’t you come out here and live?” asked the deer “and see what it’s like to be without a home.”
“I bet I could stay out there for a whole week!” Leila said.
“OK, you start NOW!” the Deer exclaimed.
“OK, I’ll get my furniture,” Leila said with a grating voice.
“NO furniture!”the Deer yelped.
“Oh, fine,” Leila yelled.Leila stayed out in the wild for a night, and soon she was hitting on trees.She hit on the trees a lot because she missed her tree.
One day the Deer walked out of a tree he now was living in. Leila was hitting it. “What are you doing?” he asked grumpily.
Leila said with an attitude, “You hit on a tree when you were frustrated, not having a home.”
“Now you know how I felt,” the Deer said. “It was a good lesson for you, Leila.”
“I guess,” she said, and fluttered away.
Sunday, March 21, 2010
Brandon Currey, 14, and Alec Launtanen, 15 build pirate kite
Tiffany, a junior paints trash cans, while other students help make kites
Flying kites next to impossible due to little breeze
A Starbucks family joins in the clean-up effort
Juliet, 2, helps weed
Principals daughter's, Teel, 7, left and Taylor,9
Wyland Kelly, 14, rakes
A COMMUNITY DAY OF SERVICE AT SAN PEDRO HIGH SCHOOL BRINGS OUT STUDENTS, STARBUCKS EMPLOYEES, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KIDS AND KITES – EVEN THOUGH THE DUD WINDS FAILED TO GET THE KITES UP IN THE AIR, CHILDREN SEEMED TO ENJOY BUILDING THEM ANYWAY
By Diana L. Chapman
With a day of warm Santa Ana winds and a bit of haze Saturday, San Pedro High students along with community members – including more than a half dozen Starbucks employees – came to weed, clean up trash and paint trash cans to beautify the school.
With a nearly 32 percent dropout rate and a campus with three-quarters of its students on some type of lunch subsidy, the beautification plan was expected to attract scores more residents after school official, Sandy Alvarenga, sent out notices to every single, local elementary school and sent out hundreds of fliers.
Despite that disappointment of low attendance or little winds , the 35 students who attended, along with the principal Jeanette Stevens, Los Angeles mayoral staff, Starbucks employees and Kiwanis Club members still seemed to enjoy the 9 a.m. to noon event.
Even with perkless winds – and few kites taking to air – several San Pedro High students not only helped little ones make kites – they tried to fly them as well.
“If only the wind would have cooperated, we would have seen more kites in the air,” the principal said. “Regardless, kids were thrilled to run around the field with their home made kites trying extremely hard to get them to stay up in the air! It was a great day for family, community engagement, and fun!”
Starbucks employee, Kelly Soto, who works at the Peninsula Center, said she was thrilled to be back at her alma mater where she graduated ninth in her 1997 class. She was saddened, she said, because of the large dropout rate and hopes to do future work with the students.
“I love it,” said Soto, as she raked up weeds and plunked them into bag. She holds a degree in marine biology. “It’s wonderful and I feel I really connected to the kids. I’ve enjoyed coming and chatting with the teachers and the kids aren’t used to having adults around them. We are happy to help out.”
“It’s so wonderful to give back to our school,” said Isaiah Gutierrez, who manages the Golden Cove Starbucks and hopes to do more community service at the campus where he too graduated. “I hear things aren’t going so well, so we want to help.”
All the students who attended worked hard weeding, repainting tired trash cans and picking up trash. Even Wyland Kelly, 14, in 9th grade, said he came “because I needed community service hours, but it’s not that bad.”
Two high school students came all the way from Manhattan Beach’s Mira Costa High School to receive community service hours.
“It’s not a bad way to get community services hours,” said a seemingly happy 15-year-old Alec Lautanen after he and his friend Brandon Currey, 14, finished building a pirate kite.
Community member James Weston, along with the Kiwanis Club, provided kites and brought professional fliers to the event. But even with the poor winds, Weston said: “See all the kids playing out there and being outside even if they can’t get their kites up.
“That’s what it’s all about.”
Monday, March 15, 2010
AS LOS ANGELES COUNCILWOMAN JANICE HAHN RUNS AROUND CAMPAIGNING FOR THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR POST – THREE YEARS BEFORE HER TERM EVEN ENDS – SOME ARE QUIETLY KEEPING AN EYE ON HER COUNCIL SEAT AND ARE CONSIDERING MAKING A GRAB FOR IT By Diana L. Chapman
In the race for the Lieutenant Governor’s seat – likely to be an intense campaign now that San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom decided last week to duke it out with Los Angeles Councilwoman Janice Hahn -- a cast of usual – and not so usual -- suspects have quietly eyed the potential opening of Hahn’s council seat.
The Democratic primary on June 8 will determine which candidate – Hahn or Newsom – will run in the Nov. 2 race against one of three Republican candidates who also filed to run for the state office.
If Hahn wins, her Los Angeles council seat, a four-year-term post that can be filled three times by the same person -- will be up for grabs, and a remarkable cast of folks from San Pedro are aiming for it, including a former council member and an information technology manager.
While some say they have no plans to run, such as Mike Lansing, a former Los Angeles Unified school board member, others say they are determined to enter the council race. Sitting on the fence, several candidates explained they are waiting for what the June election reveals.
However,, the residents who have admitted their interest in the council seat are offering us a sneak preview as to what’s likely to come, since no matter what happens, Hahn’s Los Angeles term ends June 2013.
It was Hahn’s decision to run for the state job that fueled all sorts of speculation about who is shopping around for 15th District council seat. The district spans from San Pedro to Watts and includes, Wilmington, the Harbor Gateway and Harbor City.
Having been horribly disappointed by all our former council members during my time in Los Angeles, here’s what I’ll be looking for from our council candidates:
• --Honesty, being upfront with your constituents and the media • --Follow through: Making sure the staff follows through with the actions you promised to take, a rarity among our council members • --Listen and act; don’t wait on your haunches and sit around for someone else to do the job • --Take care of your community first instead of getting caught up in the glitz, glamour and political forces in the sweeping metropolis of Los Angeles • --Improve over your predecessors, who failed us routinely in their dealings with the Los Angeles port and city council • --Bring back the public lands to us, such as the Cabrillo Beach Youth Camp, that has been run by the Boy Scouts for years and has failed to share that facility with the public – even though it’s on public port property. • --Breathe life into our dead Ports O Call, a sea side retail village, modeled after New England, that has withered on the vine with few open shops and an utter embarrassment to our community.
Done in an alphabetical listing, on the “definite” list are:
Doug Epperhart, 53, a member of the Coastal Neighborhood Council for eight years, has served as president twice and publishes newspapers and newsletters for many organizations, such as Chamber of Commerces. In the 17 years he’d lived in San Pedro, he has donated a vast pool of time to community service, first serving on the Palisades Residents Association and becoming an ongoing activist.
The underpinnings of his campaign, he said, include that he will bring a message to “the people that they are in charge,” and to transform Los Angeles from being one of the “most business-unfriendly city in America.”
His reasons for running stem from his love for San Pedro and wanting to leave it a better place for his children. “The philosophy of Fiorello La Guardia that “the essence of municipal government is good housekeeping; to make a city clean and keep it that way” sums up what the office of city council is about,” Epperhart wrote. “Public safety, public works, public service is the job of local government. I believe L.A.’s politicians are too often out of touch with the reality of their constituents’ lives. Being the highest-paid city council doesn’t guarantee quality. I want to change that. The city is on the verge of bankruptcy. That’s the legacy we are left. It’s time to roll up our sleeves and get to work.”
David Greene, 48, an information technology manager, who has lived in San Pedro for six years, holds the president position for the San Pedro Democratic Club and has since 2007. He’s held a various number of posts over the last several years, currently sitting on the Coalition for Clean and Safe Ports and as a board member for the Harry Bridges Institute and an LAUSD human relations commission.
He’s partially running his campaign on acquiring more leverage for Neighborhood Councils including in the areas of land use and planning and “strengthening and invigorating them” with the power they deserve. Also, Greene argues that schools need to become a central focus of our communities to bring on board the next generation of successful workers. “This is a real time of crisis,” Greene wrote. “The city is broke. And that situation is likely to be with us for years to come. Out of this crisis must come opportunity. There is too much at stake. We need to bring our government closer to the people. “On paper, the Neighborhood Councils were meant to help do that. In practice, they have been hobbled and ignored, and now are being slashed. We need to develop a greater sense of community throughout the city. Neighborhood Councils do that now and we need them to do more of it, not less.”
Rudy Svorinich, Jr., 49, former Los Angeles City Councilman, who has lived here nearly his entire life, explained he will run again partly because of the city's financial crisis and to ensure our area receives its fair share from downtown Los Angeles.
"The reason I am running for office again is because I believe what the city needs right now (because of the our current budgetary issues) is a steady and experienced hand at the wheel," he emailed.
"We need an experienced officeholder that knows how to fight for our communities at City Hall in a tight economy while knowing how to exercise fiscal restraint. Moreover, we need an experienced officeholder who already "knows the ropes" in regard to obtaining our basic city services."
Svorinich – who owns a government affairs/public relations firm in San Pedro - served in office from 1993 to 2001. A few years ago, he moved to Palos Verdes and is now in the process of moving back to San Pedro. Prior to running for office, he owned Industrial Paint Co. in Wilmington and served on both the San Pedro and Wilmington Chambers of Commerce as a vice-president. He also served as president of the Dalmatian-American Club.
According to Svorinich, he was responsible for bringing $1.2 billion in new programs, facilities and services back to the 15th District during his tenure - without a tax increase.
On the maybe list:
John Delgado, a 40-year-old senior account executive for the International Transportation Industry, currently leads as the president of San Pedro’s Central Neighborhood Council. He has sat on the council for the past three years. With a handful of other parents – wanting to rescue ailing baseball fields and ailing facilities in Los Angeles parks – he started and became president of the non-profit San Pedro Youth Sports Association.
The association has since negotiated various deals with Los Angeles to help pay for and repair baseball and other Los Angeles owned recreational facilities. As a volunteer, he sits on these advisory boards: Leland Park, Leland Street Elementary, Port of Los Angeles and served on the committee studying what should stay at controversial Knoll Hill Park.
In a paid position, Delgado coordinates the sports programs for Bloch Field under the auspices of the YMCA and says, as a father of four, children will always be a part of his council agenda in both organized and unorganized sports.
“My vision is to generate community support from within,” Delgado emailed. “I’ll work to establish relationships between community members and the City of Los Angeles and focus on team building and trust. I want our communities to take pride and have a sense of identity. This of course will take hard work and again.... trust.” ----------------------------
John Mavar, 33, a lifetime resident and San Pedro Longshoreman, said: “The city of Los Angeles budget is out of control and this is due poor leadership of past elected officials.
“Our economy always has ups and downs and what we need is strong leadership that will not pass any issues on to the generation of city leaders. Pension and salaries out of control and since planning was not established, layoffs will now happen.”
As a vice president of the Northwest San Pedro Neighborhood Council, Mavar explained he intends to make sure the councils are here to stay even with the budget crises – and keep them moving forward on projects such as enhancing or curbing developments to what streets need paving.
For 15 years, Mavar –who served as the honorary mayor of San Pedro in 2002-2003, currently is a YMCA board member and volunteered for many other non-profits. He also held staff positions with Assembly Member Alan Lowenthal and Mayor Jim Hahn. ------------------------
Anthony Pirozzi, 44, a Boeing chief engineer who has lived in San Pedro nearly all his life, currently sits on the board of the San Pedro Chamber and is the vice president of Eastview Little League and touts his knowledgeable background in regards to the port of Los Angeles.
“No longer should the inefficiencies of local government be a barrier to local entrepreneurship,” he emailed. “The future of the Harbor Area is well positioned to attract knowledge based jobs in clean technology and research and development. Just as the Port of Los Angeles evolved from the canneries to containers in the 70’s and 80’s it must evolve to clean and efficient port operations.”-
If he runs, his plans include attempting to create more jobs in the Harbor Area through the port and to focus on making the streets safer and clean so residents can be proud of their community.
The city, he said, must lower taxes, fees and licensing costs that make it difficult for small business owners to even open their doors in Los Angeles. With one of the largest ports in the world, its time to move ahead to provide a cleaner environment for residents, which in turn, will aid in the production of more jobs.
--Anthony Santich, 48, a West Coast Marketing and Sales Manager for Vopak Terminals North America, said the first item on his agenda will to be planning “a community mindset” and making better relations with the port.
“I am the former marketing manager for the Port of Los Angeles so I am very familiar with the business and community issues involving the port,” he said. “I have a good working relationship with the port's staff and management team and I have a thorough understanding of the operations, challenges and economic and environmental impacts of the port.
“ These are two things our community has lacked for many years from the council office,” Santich wrote.
As a former San Pedro Chamber of Commerce member for six years and president in 2006-08, he wants to establish bring everyone to the table to work on collective goals for the community and fight for the fair share of city resources.
James Weston, 33, an eight year resident who has managed Signs & Graphics Co. worked in San Pedro for 12 years , and plans to do many “feel good” community events for free – such as kite flying. He plans to run if he doesn’t find a council candidate to back and that he believes will do a good job.
In order to see the community unify, he plans to bring together a myriad of groups -- rather than keep them isolated – to improve the region and make the community whole.
“Most important to me, the councilperson has to have a passion for our community and the desire to work hard every day to improve it,” Weston said. “This position is a great honor and should be a selfless one. This is not negotiable. Any candidate that does not exemplify this trait has to be ruled out no matter the resume they bring.”
He would bring that honor to the district, he said. Diana can be reached at hartchap@cox.net
Monday, March 08, 2010
Amber Dubois, 14,
Chelsea King, 17,
HOW ONE SMALL POLICE DEPARTMENT DIDN’T WAIT UNTIL SOMETHING ESCALATED: PERHAPS THIS SHOULD BE A ROLE MODEL FOR OTHER AGENCIES AND THERE WILL BE FEWER DEAD CHILDREN ON OUR HANDS
EL SEGUNDO-TYPE ACTION MIGHT HAVE SAVED RANCHO BERNARDO’S STRAIGHT‑A SWEETHEART, 17-YEAR-OLD CHELSEA KING, FROM HER HORRIBLE FATE, ESPECIALLY SINCE THERE WERE SCARY PRECURSORS TO HER DEATH INCLUDING THE DISAPPEARANCE OF A 14-YEAR-OLD GIRL WHOSE REMAINS WERE FOUND THIS WEEKEND: IF THE POLICE AREN’T GOING TO DO IT, THEN IT BECOMES OUR JOB, THE MEDIA’S & CITY OFFICIALS’
By Diana L. Chapman
The minute the flasher began appearing in the tiny coastal town of El Segundo – targeting mostly females from ages 9 to 19, officers didn’t sit around second guessing.
They jumped all over it. Because the white male shucked down his pants and made other assorted, unpleasant gestures, they contacted schools so they could warn parents. When students informed school officials of additional incidents, schools contacted police. In addition, El Segundo officers alerted neighboring police agencies.
But they took it one step further – they made it a media blitz nearly every time the flasher struck.
Continually, the flasher story – with three different composite sketches – appeared on television networks and in newspapers across Los Angeles County over the past 14 months, since the incidents started. It would surprise me if many El Segundo residents – in fact, Los Angeles residents – were unaware of this case.
“I believed from experience it could escalate,” said police Lt. Brian Evanski, whose department oversees the safety of El Segundo, whose 17,000 residents live on the southern edge of huge Los Angeles International Airport. “We were fearful it could turn into grabbing, touching and maybe even kidnapping.”
It was with elation that Evanski reported they believe they bagged their man after an arrest on March 4 before he had a chance to harm anyone. This is the approach all police departments – big or small -- need to take when a stalker of any kind appears– such as the beautiful jogging trails around Lake Hodges, where Chelsea King once jogged alone.
This past weekend, the skeletal remains of Amber Dubois, 14, whose been missing for nearly a year after she vanished while walked to Escondido High School, were discovered about 30 miles north of Escondido, in Pala, an Indian reservation. Police are investigating whether it’s linked to Chelsea’s case.
As I listened at El Segundo’s press conference, I couldn’t help but wonder about the parallels and what went wrong in and around Northern San Diego County – where better response to a couple of scary incidents may have prevented the horrendous death of Chelsea, a sweet 17-year-old by all accounts.
Faster police action and an Amber Alert might have saved Amber.
Had local law enforcement acted the same way El Segundo’s did – even though San Diego County sheriff deputies and Escondido police have thousands more residents to care for -- Chelsea and maybe even Amber might be alive today. I say this because other events happened before Chelsea took to the trails near the lake where she routinely jogged. And they were far more threatening.
Amber had disappeared and another woman had been attacked on the trails.
Chelsea, a straight-A student at Poway High School who played the French horn in the San Diego Youth Symphony, disappeared in late February when she was out at Lake Hodges, within Rancho Bernard Community Park, a favorite with nearby residents. It’s an area my sister and I have frequented many times for solo walks.
Lake Hodges, somewhat shaped like an upside-down V with a tail, winds south of Escondido, about a mile north of Rancho Bernardo and partly under Interstate 15. Perched just 31 miles north of downtown San Diego and a fisherman’s haunt, it’s surrounded by several suburban communities, including the upscale Rancho Santa Fe to the west, Poway to the east and San Marcos to the north.
Chelsea apparently was grabbed, murdered and buried in shallow grave near a lake tributary. Police later apprehended and arrested registered sex offender John Albert Gardner III, a 6’ 2”, 230-pound white male. He was eating at the Hideaway, a popular Mexican restaurant at the northwest tip of the lake.
He was charged with murder in an attempt to commit rape and had been already convicted for attacking a 13-year-old neighbor in 2000 at his mother’s town house near the park where Chelsea disappeared. The girl said he fondled her and repeatedly punched her in the face until she made her escape.
Gardner has pleaded not guilty to Chelsea’s murder and additional charges of the “allegation of murder during the commission of a rape or attempted rape,” news reports said.
Police will not say yet whether Amber’s case might be linked to Chelsea’s. But after Chelsea’s death, Escondido police intensified their focus on her disappearance – and said they were acting on a tip at a news confernce. Amber was identified through dental records and before I finished this story, Amber’s mother called me on Sunday to tell me her daugther’s remains had been found the day before.
“It’s a horrible ending,” said her mother, Carrie McGonigle, who called her daughter sheltered and bookish on the a website the family established in search for Amber. The parents, her father, Maurice Dubois, and Carrier, who were no loner together, had done intense searching on their own – issuing fliers and hiring private investigators to find their freckle-faced girl.
It seems to me the 130 pound Amber nor the 113-pound Chelseastood a chance; and yes, I am irritated when I hear people say Chelsea should not have been on the trails alone even if it was the early afternoon.
Maybe so. But this is something many girls and women, including myself, would have been guilty of. Since my sister lives down the road from Lake Hodges, I have walked trails there many times – alonelike Chelsea – after parking in the same lot where her car was found. My sister, who often took her dogs, also walked or jogged alone. This was a popular and seemingly safe place to do so in the affluent enclave.
The lake is encircled by sandy shorelines, singing birds and intense but beautiful shrubbery and thickets – with many users. I was always more afraid of coyotes and mountain lions than an attacker.Now, I’ve learned. But we might not have had to – if the police had – like El Segundo – made a bigger ordeal out of an earlier attack at the lake.
Last Dec. 27, a woman in her 20s was jogging near the West Bernardo Drive side of the lake when a man approached her, said hello and then tackled her. He appeared to be about 25. The woman escaped by hitting him in the nose with her elbow, according to news accounts.
Few heard about this incident, which might have warned walkers, joggers and hikers to think twice about going there alone. Gardner has now been charged in that case and authorities are investigating if he’s connected to Amber’s death.
Amber was last seen on Feb. 13, 2009, about 7:10 a.m. outside Escondido High School –less than 10 miles from Lake Hodges. No “Amber Alert” was issued because she was considered a potential runaway, according to the KidsSafeWebsite.
“It appears that because she is 14, she is of the ‘runaway’ age, especially because she has divorced parents and that is the stance that the officials are taking. They say that this Amber does not meet the criteria for an Amber Alert,” wrote Kymberley Page for Children’s Educational Network. “I can’t remember ever hearing that child predators seek out only children that are from traditional family units and that they aren’t interested in children after they turn 14. Have you ever heard that?”
Kids like Amber don’t run away just after receiving the lamb they wanted for their 4-H Club project. She was also towing Valentine cards for her friends at school. Even if they do, we still need to search for them, as they are still lambs in a world of predators.
Amber’s disappearance attracted less media attention than Chelsea’s. But that’s for a reason. The Escondido Police Department didn’t react with the same concern as El Segundo’s did. Having been a journalist for decades, I understand that media reaction often reflects police reaction. It takes a nosy journalist to sniff out a bigger story when the police aren’t jumping up and down about it.
When they don’t, we typically don’t, either.
However, in Chelsea’s case, the San Diego Sheriff’s Department did haul out the big guns. They called the media, brought in searchers, dogs and helicopters. Two things probably prompted the deputies to do a giant media blitz in this case:
·They knew Amber disappeared only 10 miles from Lake Hodges and that another jogger had been attacked there.
·Chelsea’s car was found in the lot near the lake along with her cell phone and purse, a big indicator that she was no runaway.
All of this adds up to this thought. Police – like journalists – should never make assumptions. When we do, it gets us into trouble. The minute a kid of any age disappears, we should all be out in force: Contact the schools, get searches going, let the dogs out, arrange for Amber Alerts, do media blitzes and pass the news over the Internet.
The other question is how did no one seem to know about this unseen force in our midst. Gardner had several addresses, one in Lake Elsinore and another in Escondido. His parents also lived in Rancho Bernardo. And yet few knew that this sex offender was in or near their neighborhoods. He was even listed on the Internet. Perhaps we all need to be more vigilant in checking about who lives in our neighborhoods.
Unlike in El Segundo – where authorities routinely reacted to the flasher and considered him a potential predator – authorities seemed to handle the Amber’s disappearance as routine and the jogger attack as another incident to file away .
Had the El Segundo flasher decided to turn violent, the police department had done everything in its power to deflect him by letting the public become remarkably aware.
The suspect, Jeffery William Freeman, 39, of Westchester, was spotted “rubbernecking” by an-off duty officer March 4 as he drove slowly around Richmond Street Elementary School about 7:10 a.m. in a car similar to what he flasher reportedly drove. Lt. Evanski said the officer felt “hairs rise on the back of his neck.” The officer called the police while tracking the suspect’s location.
Freeman came willingly to the police station and cooperated in a “long discussion,” Evanski said, which later led to his arrest that evening at the Carmel Hotel in Santa Monica on suspicion of 10 counts of indecent exposure and possession of a controlled substance.
His bail was set at $360,000, and he was released after posting bond.
“The frequency (of the incidents) really bothered me,” said El Segundo Mayor Kelly McDowell, who supported the department’s media campaign. “Nobody knew if he was going to escalate the crime.”
When Gardner was tried for the 2000 incident, one psychiatrist, Dr. Matthew Carroll, reported the man had no remorse and was not treatable. The psychiatrist said Gardner’s behavior was likely to intensify and that underage girls would not be safe in a community where he resided. He recommended the maximum sentence of 30 years in prison.
However, Gardner was released and allegedly did exactly what El Segundo so carefully avoided; his activities allegedly escalated and people like Chelsea and perhaps Amber, paid for it.